tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425346921966365551.post2875841164952276635..comments2024-03-25T19:07:29.729+00:00Comments on Steve's Bus & Train Page: Abandoned!Steve Whttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06852377706742868978noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425346921966365551.post-48215546044356364502016-07-31T10:02:42.567+01:002016-07-31T10:02:42.567+01:00Funny you should mention the Town Service, which I...Funny you should mention the Town Service, which I was discussing with the boss only Friday. Already operating costs are minimal with the driver concerned doing schools am, providing break cover for the 581 the schools pm. So filling in those 3 hours the Town Service operates basically only requires the diesel to be covered.<br /><br />However there are some bureaucratic reasons why that particular route is tough to make money on, and BB have come up with a unique experiment. At this time I cannot reveal what it is, but if it works I'm sure I'll be able to reveal it!Steve Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06852377706742868978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425346921966365551.post-78698378431465291132016-07-31T07:39:59.447+01:002016-07-31T07:39:59.447+01:00The proof of the pudding will be when BB can susta...The proof of the pudding will be when BB can sustain the Beccles Town services. Both First and Anglian have provided them too, but just didn't last the course.<br /><br />Around the Shires it looks as though small town and peripheral urban routes (not serving town centres) need financial support from councils to survive. If someone can find a magic formula so they don't, then that'd be progress! Too many operators are remote (in every sense of the word). But surely (I hope) having a good relationship locally with the passengers, helps. If it doesn't, then I don't know what will.smurfukhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04812247601237248526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425346921966365551.post-68661960252348361612016-07-29T12:50:49.520+01:002016-07-29T12:50:49.520+01:00And I mustn't forget their favourite trick: fa...And I mustn't forget their favourite trick: failing to pick up the waiting passengers. What do they think buses are for?smurfukhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04812247601237248526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425346921966365551.post-74964983940471103222016-07-29T12:30:19.489+01:002016-07-29T12:30:19.489+01:00I understand everyone's concern about Anglian....I understand everyone's concern about Anglian. I really do.<br /><br />But I think if you had First Essex to contend with, you'd really know what it's like to have something to complain about. The passengers would be happy with Go-Ahead (or anyone else you could care to mention) back.<br /><br />Buses virtually never on time, and late means 30 minutes, 45 minutes and longer (even for routes with a 10 minute timetabled frequency!) Even if you generously put 50% down to traffic, what is cause of the rest? Their own "problems". Buses dropped without information or explanation, especially commuting, and evening/Sunday services which are sparse enough already. A ramshackle as well as regularly dirty unkempt fleet so you never know what (as well as if anything) will turn up, or in what condition. And disinterested staff, which is hardly surprising really. It's network-wide. What is going on? I don't think anyone has a clue. Their own CS are beginning to appear as exasperated as the passengers. Hardly surprising; it looks as though everyone gets treated with the same contempt. We can't even blame First HQ, it's all down to local management (or lack of it). Give them credit, they seem to change the local management like the weather. It makes no difference, either. <br /><br />I suspect at the root of it they are trying to do far too much with far too little resources, and their incessant timetable tinkering just makes things worse, and their staff on the ground (rather than the ones with their heads in the clouds) are simply completely overwhelmed. The passengers aren't. That's putting it generously. It's a complete car crash.<br /><br />They try very hard to trap passengers into paid-for-in-advance season tickets. It's not hard to see why. And why so many of their passengers soon decide "never again".smurfukhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04812247601237248526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425346921966365551.post-58385843255581110142016-07-27T10:52:36.709+01:002016-07-27T10:52:36.709+01:00I am currently trying to get confirmation of this ...I am currently trying to get confirmation of this - rumours have been circulating for some weeks now. Post to follow.Steve Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06852377706742868978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425346921966365551.post-60555496385992255932016-07-27T10:05:51.054+01:002016-07-27T10:05:51.054+01:00Looks like the gas buses are off to Plymouth in th...Looks like the gas buses are off to Plymouth in the next few weeks. Wonder what scrap Anglian will bring in to replace them, or if that finally is the end for Anglian?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13881556552535866846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425346921966365551.post-64172292939180266312016-07-26T23:23:46.611+01:002016-07-26T23:23:46.611+01:00Thomas Browne) I think anglian's days are numb...Thomas Browne) I think anglian's days are numbered. I would be surprised if there still around for the next few years. Anglian's livery should be dark as its future is not looking as bright as yellow.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425346921966365551.post-63137582548031675512016-07-26T20:33:09.676+01:002016-07-26T20:33:09.676+01:00I've no love for Go-Ahead but I'm not sure...I've no love for Go-Ahead but I'm not sure it's right they're destroying Hedingham. Sure they lost a few routes in the April tendering but gained a few too. (And three depots within less than a 20 mile radius in the countryside is just too many, for anybody). Largely consolidating their operations, as they have now with all three Tollesbury routes, reinatated with support from the County Council. That's sense, not stupidity. And there's the rub, Suffolk CC don't play their part. In Suffolk it's just harder to make buses work, particularly as a network mainly because Suffolk County Council don't see buses as a network. (Maybe too they see the East Suffolk line as THE public transport with buses filling in the gaps; many rural areas elsewhere don't have the same rail network as East Suffolk and Norfolk). <br /><br />Pardon me if I'm wrong, but Borderbus (who can be choosers without a legacy network) seems mostly to provide end to end services rather than a network as such. I suspect they are easier to make work, especially when the destination is Norwich. Suffolk play the same game, they support services X to Y, not if you want to be different and change buses. It's easier, and cheaper to provide that way.smurfukhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04812247601237248526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425346921966365551.post-22612812934715175112016-07-26T18:51:08.518+01:002016-07-26T18:51:08.518+01:00Go-Ahead have been going backwards since the arriv...Go-Ahead have been going backwards since the arrived in the area. But we are not alone - Hedingham is also being slowly destroyed, and they are hardly making a success of their rail franchises either. A public transport revolution is needed - who's up for the fight?Steve Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06852377706742868978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425346921966365551.post-70709202176937342642016-07-26T18:47:17.477+01:002016-07-26T18:47:17.477+01:00Lol you clearly didn't read the post carefully...Lol you clearly didn't read the post carefully enough! <br /><br />"Borderbus are also taking over the Beccles Town Service, with four morning journeys a day Monday - Friday."<br /><br />The tietable for the 580 can be viewed on the suffolkonboard website, or by pasting this link into your address bar <br /><br />http://www.suffolkonboard.com/buses/bus-service-changes/august-2016/ Steve Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06852377706742868978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425346921966365551.post-34881097827757889642016-07-26T18:39:48.438+01:002016-07-26T18:39:48.438+01:00What we have acros mkost of the country is the con...What we have acros mkost of the country is the constant nibling away of what is left of the bus services. THere is also the lack of stability. One day you my have a bus service the next it has gone or you get operators changing so suddenly you find your cost of getting fronm A to B has doubled or even trebled<br /><br />Bus services are a very sorry decling mess in my viewAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425346921966365551.post-12886448963413990872016-07-26T12:16:09.947+01:002016-07-26T12:16:09.947+01:00how come they havent got the timetables for the 58...how come they havent got the timetables for the 580Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425346921966365551.post-90946993271400989612016-07-26T12:15:22.782+01:002016-07-26T12:15:22.782+01:00What's this? http://www.border-bus.co.uk/media...What's this? http://www.border-bus.co.uk/media/docs/Beccles_Town_Service.pdf<br /><br />HmmmmAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425346921966365551.post-4159791358409256832016-07-26T00:01:44.686+01:002016-07-26T00:01:44.686+01:00My uncle came down from Yorkshire and try ed to us...My uncle came down from Yorkshire and try ed to use the bus from holton to haleswortha couple of times.1st bus was 20 minutes late and the second time it arrived 5 minutes and missed it obviously.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425346921966365551.post-35457838919308543602016-07-25T21:36:21.653+01:002016-07-25T21:36:21.653+01:00It is unbelievable the way Anglian are treating th...It is unbelievable the way Anglian are treating the public but then it is unbelievable how they have managed to turn a much loved thriving business into this laughing stock , How can you go from 100 busses with passengers waiting for your bus rather than getting on another companies bus to about 29ish busses and dropping routes left right and center and call it sensible business practice , They are just pissing off the very people who made Anglian a success in the first place , But then Go Ahead know what they are doing !!!! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425346921966365551.post-78756291243113603392016-07-25T16:50:29.034+01:002016-07-25T16:50:29.034+01:00Maybe someone at Anglian writes a load of numbers,...Maybe someone at Anglian writes a load of numbers,put them in a bucket and holds an (un)lucky dip. roll up roll up, pick out a number and that's the time your bus departs today. Really, you could not make it up!Trevor Ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11580679352006526817noreply@blogger.com