tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425346921966365551.post3605373009029535456..comments2024-03-25T19:07:29.729+00:00Comments on Steve's Bus & Train Page: What A Grey Day!Steve Whttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06852377706742868978noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425346921966365551.post-55694726768397112072015-10-26T15:42:01.331+00:002015-10-26T15:42:01.331+00:00A leaflet from IB came through my door today, publ...A leaflet from IB came through my door today, publishing the new buses. Apparently they have "luxury E-leather seats". So now we know.Andrew Kleissnernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425346921966365551.post-72663793864088136192015-10-25T20:38:15.531+00:002015-10-25T20:38:15.531+00:00This comment has been removed by the author.Transit UK980https://www.blogger.com/profile/10938486799939148068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425346921966365551.post-46938795487835612442015-10-24T17:52:18.303+01:002015-10-24T17:52:18.303+01:00interior was disappointingly bland.grey grey and m...interior was disappointingly bland.grey grey and more grey although not as claustrophobic as the omnicities.i thought the seats were fine,better the 14 plate galloway solo but i was only on there 10 mins.looking at the seats, i was bothered about legroom but actually i had room and im 5 10 so it wont be an issue for most people. can see your point about buggies.if there had been 2 on my bus,it wouldnt have left much room for passengers to get on and off.Trevor Ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11580679352006526817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425346921966365551.post-6652004722945178732015-10-24T17:02:13.948+01:002015-10-24T17:02:13.948+01:00Not sure we ever got above 30mph, Trevor! What did...Not sure we ever got above 30mph, Trevor! What did you think of the Citaro interior? Not surprised about 23 as Lothian take good care of their buses.Steve Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06852377706742868978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425346921966365551.post-2219306691244921462015-10-24T16:07:47.311+01:002015-10-24T16:07:47.311+01:00Well today was the day I got to ride a citaro. Had...Well today was the day I got to ride a citaro. Had to wait though because no.23 was sitting waiting to go out so boarded that. For a 51 plate decker, the ride was really rather good. The tartan seats were fine though the roof panels rattled over bumps. Got off at Aldi for shops and just got out in time to catch 153. Oh dear. Engine was reasonably quiet, bell very quiet( I couldn't hear it) and one of the seats rattled a bit. The ride however was a different matter. At low/v.low speeds,it was excellent.over 30 mph and I felt every little bump and crack in the road. I couldn't believe it. Will need to try 154/155 but the ride was disappointing. The decker was a lovely ride for the year.better than my Galloway solo sr though maybe that's unfair considering the roads it has to use.Trevor Ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11580679352006526817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425346921966365551.post-33824464695102664782015-10-18T17:37:44.640+01:002015-10-18T17:37:44.640+01:00I lived in Lisbon (Portugal) in the late 1970s. At...I lived in Lisbon (Portugal) in the late 1970s. At this time Carris was changing over from British buses (mostly AEC including some ancient Regals) to more modern Volvo B59s. The old buses were real "utility" versions and they certainly rattled on the Lisbon cobbles - but some lasted for well over 30 years.<br /><br />What was interesting about the Volvos was that the bodies came from several manufacturers, both Portuguese and foreign.The first batch had really comfortable deep leather-covered (or Rexine!) seats. The only problem was that they were almost too soft. A later batch had the most uncomfortable moulded polypropylene seats without even the least of squabs. I think this was to save money but also because the padded seats got vandalised.<br /><br />However neither beat a good old-fashioned London Transport seat (think RT and RM). A lot of Lisbon streets are sharply cambered and the buses had very soft suspension.This gave a lot of body lean and moquette on the seats would have stopped one from sliding off! The grab rails got a lot of use!<br /><br />The present day Carris fleet is splendid (if less interesting), especially the articulated Citaros.<br /><br />I haven't yet tried the Ipswich Citaros. They certainly have the brightest destination indicators I've ever seen!Andrew Kleissnernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425346921966365551.post-85801878137255351552015-10-18T11:49:47.306+01:002015-10-18T11:49:47.306+01:00Why the strange shape of the seat backs? The only ...Why the strange shape of the seat backs? The only logic I can see is it saves om material. What is the strange metal bracket on the side of the seat. It is useless as an arm rest or anything else<br /><br />The interior looks dreadful and substandard. No thought seems to have gone in to it at all. It snakes of chap and nasty. The seats just appear to be hard molded plasticAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425346921966365551.post-19889753209651432682015-10-18T05:28:46.718+01:002015-10-18T05:28:46.718+01:00Same thoughts when I rode on First's Park &...Same thoughts when I rode on First's Park & Ride Citaro's in Truro. Look fantastic, but I was surprised by the lack of padding on the seats. Glad i'ts only a 5 minute ride into townZak's Plateshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10170552139362520636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425346921966365551.post-84377483841246027302015-10-17T12:59:17.731+01:002015-10-17T12:59:17.731+01:00will let you know. going to spend a day riding bus...will let you know. going to spend a day riding buses methinks.Trevor Ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11580679352006526817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425346921966365551.post-18512415588302074352015-10-17T12:47:03.923+01:002015-10-17T12:47:03.923+01:00That route tends to get the new deckes but the fir...That route tends to get the new deckes but the first time it's had new singles. Originally the Citaros were going on the X5, which I thought was too short a route for them, but having been on them now it's about as far as I could tolerate!Steve Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06852377706742868978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425346921966365551.post-36687763706308899302015-10-17T12:44:28.763+01:002015-10-17T12:44:28.763+01:00I'll be interested to see if you agree with me...I'll be interested to see if you agree with me, Trevor.Steve Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06852377706742868978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425346921966365551.post-54331033519353962592015-10-17T12:43:35.057+01:002015-10-17T12:43:35.057+01:00Indeed but only two days in service is a little un...Indeed but only two days in service is a little unimpressive - the Germans would be horrified!Steve Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06852377706742868978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425346921966365551.post-77359122979757420762015-10-17T12:42:40.094+01:002015-10-17T12:42:40.094+01:00I cannot stand those hybrids! I also believe Arriv...I cannot stand those hybrids! I also believe Arriva care more for their customer's backsides than those round here. Decent seats would make a big difference to a lot of vehicles in our part of the world, not mentioning any Anglian Scania First B7l's names of course!Steve Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06852377706742868978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425346921966365551.post-4977686320143696312015-10-17T11:37:00.265+01:002015-10-17T11:37:00.265+01:00Shame they obviously went for the cheapest possibl...Shame they obviously went for the cheapest possible spec on these. Rattles occur on any bus and normally just need an engineer to tighten something up - not rocket science.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425346921966365551.post-63862253131589062922015-10-17T10:53:10.517+01:002015-10-17T10:53:10.517+01:00Rode one of those earlier this year on the cross-c...Rode one of those earlier this year on the cross-country Arriva GreenLine journey out of Harlow so I was waiting for your report. Was one of the better buses I've been on for comfort and ride, but it did have deep leather seating. I quite like the grey (at least compared to First's pastel shades of everything) and the bell didn't seem unusually quiet but I always check the screen anyway. I felt much worse and shaken up on the equivalent First Essex Volvo hybrid service 100 run, so much so that I took the roundabout country route on an Optare Solo back on the return journey!smurfukhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04812247601237248526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425346921966365551.post-18619948951906651102015-10-16T19:15:13.244+01:002015-10-16T19:15:13.244+01:00IBs scania omnicitys were branded for the 13 when ...IBs scania omnicitys were branded for the 13 when they arrived new and for a while,thats where they stayed. gradually they started appearing on the 8 and 12 and now they can appear pretty much anywhere. dnt think it will be too long before the Citaros wander on to other routes.last time i used the 13,it was well used by buggies so where the best place for the Citaros is,i dnt know. might give them a try next saturday though.Trevor Ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11580679352006526817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425346921966365551.post-92004237551311064992015-10-16T18:51:44.298+01:002015-10-16T18:51:44.298+01:00Is there any reason why they're being used on ...Is there any reason why they're being used on services 9 and 10, given these services are always busy and really need deckers to cover the schedule?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13881556552535866846noreply@blogger.com